Is there a way to make a poster paper with Quarto?

[cooknl]

I'm trying to get away from slideshows, and I'm thinking about large-format poster papers as an alternative, in which the poster paper is "traversed" during the presentation, including zoom out and zoom in

[cooknl]

https://github.com/brentthorne/posterdown for RMarkdown is an example of what I mean for the source material, but then combine it with pan and zoom of the view.

[mcanouil]

For now, I am not aware of posterdown being ported to Quarto as formats extensions (see https://quarto.org/docs/extensions/formats.html).
I was thinking of doing it in the future if not done by someone else by then.
You could give it a try and/try define a new format with all the specs you want.

PS: would you mind changing the Discussion category from "ideas" to "Q&A"? Unless you are actually really asking "can someone do it?" rather than "how can I do it?".

[mcanouil]

Also, separately, only with desktop site (not GitHub mobile app, nor mobile site) was is clear how to change the label from Idea to Q&A

App/Desktop version do not have all the features. This is true for any website-based services.

[jcolomb]

it may be just needed some tweaks for the beamer output using beamer-poster templates, see https://www.overleaf.com/latex/templates?q=beamer+poster for examples.

Probably getting a quarto template that would translate is some latex templates would be nice. Aso having one for the "betterland" template of posterdown would be cool (the existing one is a html template : https://github.com/brentthorne/posterdown/blob/master/inst/rmarkdown/templates/posterdown_betterland/resources/template.html).

I personally do not really see a reason to create html posters (websites and reveal.js presentations are better options for me).

[mcanouil]

For short:

• "how?" has been answered, i.e., "make a Quarto format extension".
• "how difficult?", the heavy lifting is already done in posterdown.
• "who?", well whoever wants to do it.
• "when?" when Paged.js is suported natively in Quarto (which is scheduled). Why? Because posterdown HTML poster format imports pagedown, thus Paged.js, and because making an extension for PDF and HTML from the start is more efficient than doing some kind of patchwork or refactoring the whole extension. Also, HTML + CSS is by far more flexible and powerful than LaTeX, because in a world of hybrid and online conferences, interactivity is key, but this is not possible in static LaTeX PDF.

I might be the one to do it, but definitely not before Paged.js native support.

[awav]

@mcanouil have you managed to work on that? Any news about Paged.js support?

[mcanouil]

Not at all, because there isn't native support for Paged.js right now.

[cooknl]

My initial intent was to create a large form factor area for static or interactive content, that could then be navigated during a "prezi-like" presentation, or that could be explored by someone on their own time, without the limitations of the 16:9 frame and the library constraints of a slide deck NLC Mickaël Canouil ***@***.***> schrieb am Do., 8. Sept. 2022, 10:29:

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[mcanouil]

I got that and I think this is definitely something worth adding to Quarto via extension.
To note, Paged.js can make "page" of whatever dimensions.

[TS-CUBED]

Are there any news on this? Since RMarkdown is reasonably close to Quarto, I could get away with moving to Posterdown for the poster only and then back to Quarto, but would be really nice to stay within quarto.

[mcanouil]

No updates means no updates.
It's plan but for the time being building your own Quarto extension format (especially when using LaTeX) is your best option.

[baptiste]

You might like to play with Typst; it's still early in development but I think for the purpose of placing content at arbitrary positions on a page it'll be much more convenient than LaTeX-based solutions (and I say this as someone who's wandered relatively deep into that rabbit hole!). The grid layout system is still on their Todo list, however, so it'll probably remain a bit rough to make posters until then.

I don't know Typst yet, but I briefly tried it to reproduce this minimal example and it was pretty straightforward. Adapting it to quarto with a custom Typst template should be doable.

[TS-CUBED]

Wow, those Quarto posters in your blog look awesome. I don't use R, so would have to work out how to do that with Julia code.

[cderv]

@baptiste unfortunately the typst link is not public... would love to see your try !

[awav]

@cderv, I've recently started using typst, and it is a really flexible tool (although young). Here is a package for posters: https://github.com/pncnmnp/typst-poster. As you can see the final file with the code for the poster is quite concise.

[cderv]

Yes typst seems really good ! I plan to look further into it - glad you already did and was able to share an example!
Regarding the private link I was refering to https://typst.app/project/p5nqRYBCD5gqZWZox5QtUC shared above.

[baptiste]

I fixed the link – but this was really just a basic experiment, nothing interesting. It's promising to port the full poster example though, but I haven't got to it yet.

[baptiste]

The other thing that comes to my mind from the OP (not so much a poster but more an infinite canvas) are tools such as Excalidraw, draw.io, and tl;draw. Each of these uses an open format (json/xml) that can be generated programmatically, and so a quarto document could potentially be translated into one of these outputs.

I've made a few attempts for specific tasks, for example minixcali and this application to display all math equations on a canvas, there's also coolbutuseless' minidrawio device, etc.

Specifying a layout for the elements is an interesting question, ideally it would be done in a feedback loop where one alters the position manually on the canvas and imports the positions back into the source document (again, since these are xml/json based formats, this is pretty straight-forward). I wonder what would be a good convention to store such positioning info.

As a side-note, pandoc has some support for ICML (Indesign), but I don't know if that helps much (requires Indesign, and again I don't think the positioning w/could be automated).

[higgi13425]

For many scientists, the general need is for a large (usually either 3 feet tall by 6 feet wide (US) or 1189 mm (46.8 inches) Height and 841 mm (33.1 inches) Width (Europe went with tall format). We generally print these on heavy glossy paper and put into poster tubes for travel, or some folks print them on cloth (so that they fold, easier to travel). It would be great to have a printable quarto version for this purpose, that could generally print both wide and tall formats, and have a few standard templates to start with.

[mcanouil]

Probably I need to look into the typst orginal extension adjust manually, but it would be great to know how to get it out of the box

Indeed.

[higgi13425]

There are several examples, including euro A0 here - feel free to share - https://github.com/higgi13425/quarto_poster

[higgi13425]

@cooknl on the pan and zoom front - here is an experiment with scrollytelling - https://phiggins.quarto.pub/spending-wisely-on-ibd-medications/ which may help

[cooknl]

@cooknl on the pan and zoom front - here is an experiment with scrollytelling - https://phiggins.quarto.pub/spending-wisely-on-ibd-medications/ which may help

That has some potential

My primary idea is a single massive canvas with all content, albeit at different scales, that can be navigated either freely or in a predetermined sequence of pan and zooms

[higgi13425]

It would seem that a clever combination of the quarto typst poster above https://github.com/higgi13425/quarto_poster and the scrollytelling capabilities, which rely on the closeread quarto extension here https://closeread.dev/ (code repo for the example here - https://github.com/higgi13425/scrollytelling_closeread) might get you there. Let me know if you figure out how to combine the two.